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	<title>Comments on: Pentagonal Compass Rose Box and &#966;-Quiddity</title>
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		<title>By: oschene</title>
		<link>http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2005/11/20/pentagonal-compass-rose-box-and-quiddity/comment-page-1/#comment-2018</link>
		<dc:creator>oschene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a rectangle with special properties: try &lt;a href=&quot;http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rect%C3%A2ngulo_de_ouro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a rectangle with special properties: try <a href="http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rect%C3%A2ngulo_de_ouro" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does that means - golden rectangle? Please, help me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does that means &#8211; golden rectangle? Please, help me.</p>
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		<title>By: oschene</title>
		<link>http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2005/11/20/pentagonal-compass-rose-box-and-quiddity/comment-page-1/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>oschene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 12:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, blast!

When someone speaks Portugese to me, I either feed it through Google (which unfortunately uses a Martian dialect of English) or ask my friend, Rosa, who grew up in Portugal and gives me recipes for febras. This time, though, I&#039;m going to rely on eight weeks of accelerated Latin and guess you&#039;re asking, &quot;How the hell do you do this?&quot; Or you&#039;re insulting my uncle.

Okay, it&#039;s not easy and it defies conventional and uncoventional diagramming. Jane (who does speak Portugese, by the way) succeeded in folding it, I&#039;m not sure how. If you look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2006/01/07/the-star-vase/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Star Vase&lt;/a&gt; diagrams, you&#039;ll see a single twist of a pentagonal tube offsets the bottom half. However, it you twist it &lt;b&gt;twice&lt;/b&gt;, you line the halves up again. It leaves corners sticking out that need to be folded in. It&#039;s not wicked easy to collapse.

In many ways, this was a transitional piece and I hope to publish more transparent variations of this soon.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, blast!</p>
<p>When someone speaks Portugese to me, I either feed it through Google (which unfortunately uses a Martian dialect of English) or ask my friend, Rosa, who grew up in Portugal and gives me recipes for febras. This time, though, I&#8217;m going to rely on eight weeks of accelerated Latin and guess you&#8217;re asking, &#8220;How the hell do you do this?&#8221; Or you&#8217;re insulting my uncle.</p>
<p>Okay, it&#8217;s not easy and it defies conventional and uncoventional diagramming. Jane (who does speak Portugese, by the way) succeeded in folding it, I&#8217;m not sure how. If you look at the <a href="http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2006/01/07/the-star-vase/" rel="nofollow">Star Vase</a> diagrams, you&#8217;ll see a single twist of a pentagonal tube offsets the bottom half. However, it you twist it <b>twice</b>, you line the halves up again. It leaves corners sticking out that need to be folded in. It&#8217;s not wicked easy to collapse.</p>
<p>In many ways, this was a transitional piece and I hope to publish more transparent variations of this soon.</p>
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		<title>By: blast</title>
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		<dc:creator>blast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>com? q faiz tio????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>com? q faiz tio????</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s because I&#039;m good at following orders.  When I was growing up, my brother would disassemble stuff and I&#039;d assemble them back together - most of the time they worked too.

Doing your origami is a bit like both - I have &quot;instructions&quot; (you do leave a lot of clues on your entries) and I have to put things together so it works.

A friend of mine saw the photo of the one I did and when he found out it&#039;s made from a golden rectangle, he said he had to do it (he&#039;s a math professor).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m good at following orders.  When I was growing up, my brother would disassemble stuff and I&#8217;d assemble them back together &#8211; most of the time they worked too.</p>
<p>Doing your origami is a bit like both &#8211; I have &#8220;instructions&#8221; (you do leave a lot of clues on your entries) and I have to put things together so it works.</p>
<p>A friend of mine saw the photo of the one I did and when he found out it&#8217;s made from a golden rectangle, he said he had to do it (he&#8217;s a math professor).</p>
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		<title>By: oschene</title>
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		<dc:creator>oschene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane, I agree with you: it is absurdly hard to collapse this. This weekend, I redesigned the model to be folded from a square and to collapse in a more civilized way. 

It uses the same grid as the star-vase. Instead of two full twists in one direction (as above), I used two half-twists in opposite directions. You end up with the corners of the tube aligned and five inside reverse folds. This uses less paper, but is a little tricky to initiate. I&#039;ll have to do it  a few more times before I can attempt a CP.

I&#039;ve got to say, it&#039;s impressive how you can decipher these cryptic CPs so well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane, I agree with you: it is absurdly hard to collapse this. This weekend, I redesigned the model to be folded from a square and to collapse in a more civilized way. </p>
<p>It uses the same grid as the star-vase. Instead of two full twists in one direction (as above), I used two half-twists in opposite directions. You end up with the corners of the tube aligned and five inside reverse folds. This uses less paper, but is a little tricky to initiate. I&#8217;ll have to do it  a few more times before I can attempt a CP.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, it&#8217;s impressive how you can decipher these cryptic CPs so well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that one was hard to fold!  The way it closes is very clever.  A had a good time trying to figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that one was hard to fold!  The way it closes is very clever.  A had a good time trying to figure it out.</p>
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