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	<title>Comments on: How to Make a Pentagon from a Circle</title>
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		<title>By: darren</title>
		<link>http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2006/11/23/how-to-make-a-pentagon-from-a-circle/comment-page-1/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a sequence for folding a pentagon from a square, which may be handy for some.   If folded perfectly, you get a mathematically accurate pentagon at the end.   Irregularities of folding something real, by a human folder, will give you results more or less accurate.

The diagram can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ganymeta.org/~darren/origamishapes.php?shape=pentagon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a sequence for folding a pentagon from a square, which may be handy for some.   If folded perfectly, you get a mathematically accurate pentagon at the end.   Irregularities of folding something real, by a human folder, will give you results more or less accurate.</p>
<p>The diagram can be found <a href="http://www.ganymeta.org/~darren/origamishapes.php?shape=pentagon" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: oschene</title>
		<link>http://origami.oschene.com/archives/2006/11/23/how-to-make-a-pentagon-from-a-circle/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>oschene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 04:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thus, I am answered. (It never hurts to have a mathematician dropping by.) That &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; sound easier and I certainly will give it a try.

I was trying to imagine teaching that rose today -  there are a lot of stumbling blocks to get over, though I know people would enjoy collapsing the spiral. Perhaps at the next Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus, I am answered. (It never hurts to have a mathematician dropping by.) That <em>does</em> sound easier and I certainly will give it a try.</p>
<p>I was trying to imagine teaching that rose today &#8211;  there are a lot of stumbling blocks to get over, though I know people would enjoy collapsing the spiral. Perhaps at the next Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there!  Nice rose, and yes, pentagons are fun.  But if I had to teach such a pentagon to a group of people (say, for your rose), I&#039;d opt to use the Fujimoto angle approximation method to divide 360 degrees into 5 equal (or close-enough-for-all-practical-purposes) parts.  Do you know this?  It works exactly like his method for approximating 1/5ths from a strip of paper, but you do it for angles.  So you start with one crease from the center to the side (a radius of the circle) and call this the 0 degree crease. Then guess where the 72 degree crease would be, perhaps by making a pinch on the circle&#039;s border.  Then you have two &quot;angles&quot; in the circle -- one approx 72 deg and one approx 360-72 = 288 deg.  Divide the 288 deg angle in half with another pinch on the border of the circle.  This makes a pinch at roughly the 72 + 288/2 = 216 deg mark, except now the error you had has been divided in half.  Then bring the 216 deg pinch and the 0 deg mark together to get a pinch for approx the 288 deg mark.  Then work your way around the other way of the circle -- in the end you&#039;ll have a much better approximation of the 72 deg pinch  (your initial error will have been divided into 16ths -- barely visible!).  

Maybe it&#039;s me, but I find that a lot easier and kinda fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there!  Nice rose, and yes, pentagons are fun.  But if I had to teach such a pentagon to a group of people (say, for your rose), I&#8217;d opt to use the Fujimoto angle approximation method to divide 360 degrees into 5 equal (or close-enough-for-all-practical-purposes) parts.  Do you know this?  It works exactly like his method for approximating 1/5ths from a strip of paper, but you do it for angles.  So you start with one crease from the center to the side (a radius of the circle) and call this the 0 degree crease. Then guess where the 72 degree crease would be, perhaps by making a pinch on the circle&#8217;s border.  Then you have two &#8220;angles&#8221; in the circle &#8212; one approx 72 deg and one approx 360-72 = 288 deg.  Divide the 288 deg angle in half with another pinch on the border of the circle.  This makes a pinch at roughly the 72 + 288/2 = 216 deg mark, except now the error you had has been divided in half.  Then bring the 216 deg pinch and the 0 deg mark together to get a pinch for approx the 288 deg mark.  Then work your way around the other way of the circle &#8212; in the end you&#8217;ll have a much better approximation of the 72 deg pinch  (your initial error will have been divided into 16ths &#8212; barely visible!).  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s me, but I find that a lot easier and kinda fun.</p>
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		<title>By: oschene</title>
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		<dc:creator>oschene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complex, sirrah! I think your Swiss Army knife is perhaps missing the Ockham&#039;s Razor blade. 

Find me a method with fewer than eight steps to elegance. I will wait.

*cough*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complex, sirrah! I think your Swiss Army knife is perhaps missing the Ockham&#8217;s Razor blade. </p>
<p>Find me a method with fewer than eight steps to elegance. I will wait.</p>
<p>*cough*</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Gjerde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Gjerde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that seems like a really complex way to build a pentagon. But indeed, it is elegant. I love geometry done with compass and straightedge, it feels &quot;right&quot;... much less insulting to the paper muse than plotting angles in Illustrator.

My opinion, anyhow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that seems like a really complex way to build a pentagon. But indeed, it is elegant. I love geometry done with compass and straightedge, it feels &#8220;right&#8221;&#8230; much less insulting to the paper muse than plotting angles in Illustrator.</p>
<p>My opinion, anyhow!</p>
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